World TikTok urges US court order to block Trump ban
Trump is shutting down WeChat in the US but will let TikTok live until after the election
Both companies have Chinese owners. One of them has support from Trump-backers.And the administration says it will do the same thing to TikTok, the mobile video service popular with tens of millions of Americans — but only after the November election.
A federal judge Thursday urged the Trump administration to consider delaying a ban on new downloads of the popular video app TikTok and hinted he might block the government's order set to take effect on Sunday.
Judge Carl Nichols made the comments at a hastily called telephone hearing where TikTok argued a ban, even if temporary, could cause irreparable harm to the video-sharing application with some 100 million US users.
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The president has said he has agreed to a deal to allow the social media platform to continue operating in the United States.President Donald Trump said Saturday he supported "in concept" an arrangement which would see TikTok move to be owned by a new company, TikTok global, which Oracle and Walmart will both have shares in.
The judge agreed with TikTok lawyers to an expedited hearing schedule and said he would make a decision before the ban takes effect at 11:59 pm Sunday (0359 GMT Monday).
Nichols said he disagreed with government lawyers' claims that the ban -- which would not immediately prevent usage of TikTok but prevent downloads by new users and updates -- "merely preserves the status quo."
"I would like the government (Justice Department) to confer with its client," Nichols said.
He asked the Justice Department lawyers to indicate by Friday if they were willing to postpone a ban; if not he would review briefs from both sides and make a ruling on TikTok's request for a temporary injunction on President Donald Trump's order.
The Chinese-owned app -- which is wildly popular with US teenagers in particular -- has come under fire as tensions escalate between Beijing and Washington, with Trump threatening a ban if it is not sold to an American company.
Trump vows to block any TikTok deal that allows Chinese control
A deal to restructure ownership of the popular video app TikTok was thrown into doubt Monday by President Donald Trump, who vowed to block any deal that allows its Chinese parent firm to retain any control. Trump on Monday told Fox News that TikTok's Chinese parent firm ByteDance "will have nothing to do with it and if they do, then we just won't make the deal."The comments raised fresh concerns over a weekend deal that appeared to avert a US-ordered ban of TikTok, which the Trump administration has called a national security risk and has threatened to ban without ownership changes.
- National security issues -
Earlier this month, Trump cited national security concerns and issued orders to ban both the popular Chinese app WeChat -- which has been put on hold by a separate court -- and TikTok.
But the TikTok order stops short of a full ban until November 12, giving the Chinese parent firm ByteDance time to conclude a deal to transfer ownership of the app.
A tentative deal unveiled last weekend would make Silicon Valley giant Oracle the technology partner for TikTok and a stakeholder in a new entity to be known as TikTok Global.
Trump has argued that TikTok and WeChat could be used by Chinese intelligence even as his critics said he offered no substantive evidence.
- Ban would 'cripple' TikTok -
As part of its court filing, a statement from TikTok interim head Vanessa Pappas said a ban to take effect Sunday would be devastating for the social platform which had been surging in much of the world.
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As negotiations over a potential Oracle-Walmart deal simmer, a Trump administration order that could remove TikTok from Apple and Google app stores is looming.The figure was revealed in court filings on Wednesday as the Chinese-owned company appealed to a U.S. judge to grant an injunction against a Trump administration order that could see the app removed from Apple and Google stores in the U.S. Sunday.
A ban "will cause our user base to stagnate and then precipitously decline," Pappas said.
"For TikTok to remain competitive, continued growth at this stage in our development is critical. New users are the lifeblood of a social media application like TikTok; without new users, we cannot compete with other platforms."
She noted that until July 1, when rumors of a ban first began to circulate, TikTok was adding some 424,000 new US users each day.
"Eliminating this influx of new US users would cripple our growth and immediately cut into our market share," she said.
The TikTok petition also speculated that the president was retaliating because of reports the app was used by his critics to snatch up tickets to a Trump rally in Tulsa to which they had no intention of going -- an event which belly flopped with significantly fewer people in attendance.
- Deal in limbo -
The status of the deal on TikTok, which would include investment from US retail giant Walmart, remained unclear as the parties awaited word on whether it would win approval in Beijing.
ByteDance said Thursday that it had applied for an export license with the commerce ministry, although it did not specifically link the move to TikTok or any potential sale.
China's commerce ministry published new rules in August that added "civilian use" to a list of technologies that are restricted for export and require permission, which could complicate any sale.
TikTok download ban temporarily blocked by US judge in a blow to the Trump administration .
A federal judge on Sunday ruled in favour of TikTok, blocking the Trump administration's temporary download ban set to take place tonight at 11:59 p.m. TikTok has been a target of the Trump administration since July, and last month, the president signed a pair of executive orders against the app and its Chinese owner, ByteDance, leading to the download ban. The president said last week that a deal between ByteDance and US-based Oracle and Walmart had his "blessing," but the deal has been muddled due to conflicting statements from the involved companies. Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.