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MoneyAir Canada, WestJet fly 37 planes of the type that crashed in Ethiopia

07:00  11 march  2019
07:00  11 march  2019 Source:   globalnews.ca

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WestJet added four more Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes following a separate fatal crash in Indonesia. And one of those airlines added four more after a separate fatal crash in Indonesia took 189 lives in October. WATCH: Kenyan Transport Minister confirms 157 on board plane when it crashed .

Air Canada and rival WestJet Airlines operate a total of 37 Boeing 737 MAX jets . Kayak.com was the first big site to say it would modify filters to allow customers to exclude particular types of planes from But October's Lion Air crash in Indonesia sparked a debate on automation, particularly over a

Air Canada, WestJet fly 37 planes of the type that crashed in Ethiopia© AP Photo/Yidnek Kirubel Rescuers search at the scene of an Ethiopian Airlines flight that crashed shortly after takeoff at the scene at Hejere near Bishoftu, or Debre Zeit, some 50 kilometers (31 miles) south of Addis Ababa, in Ethiopia Sunday, March 10, 2019.

Canadian airlines fly nearly 40 planes of the type that crashed in Ethiopia, killing 157 people including 18 Canadians on Sunday.

And one of those airlines added four more after a separate fatal crash in Indonesia took 189 lives in October.

WATCH: Kenyan Transport Minister confirms 157 on board plane when it crashed

WestJet confirmed that it has 13 Boeing 737 MAX planes in its fleet — and that's four more than it had in November when a Lion Air flight crashed in the Java Sea.

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READ MORE: Air Canada , WestJet fly 37 planes of the type that crashed in Ethiopia . A spokesman for the NTSB said the U.S. agency was sending a team of four to assist Ethiopian authorities. Boeing and the U.S. investigative agency are also involved in the Lion Air probe.

Ethiopian Airlines said that the first officer had flown 200 hours at the time of the disaster. Sara Gebre Michael was the lead hostess on board the flight. She is survived by her husband and three children. Ayantu Girma was also part of the hosting crew. Her father Girma Lelissa told the Ethiopian news

Those planes represent just over 10 per cent of the Boeing 737s that it flies in total.

Asked why it added more of those planes following such a devastating crash, WestJet said it has an order for "50 MAX aircraft and have ongoing deliveries."

"WestJet sends heartfelt condolences to those friends and family whose loved ones were on board Ethiopian Airlines flight 302," it said.

"We are monitoring the situation closely and will not speculate on the cause of the incident at this time."

A search of WestJet's website showed that the airline uses the Boeing 737-MAX 8 on routes such as Toronto to Cancun and Calgary to Mazatlan,

Air Canada, meanwhile, said it has 24 Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes.

"These aircraft have performed excellently from a safety, reliability and customer satisfaction perspective," it said in a statement.

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The Boeing 737 Max 8 jet crashed within minutes of its take-off from Addis Ababa, losing and gaining speed dramatically in its final seconds after setting off for Tonight Prime Minister Theresa May said she was 'deeply saddened to hear of the devastating loss of life following the plane crash in Ethiopia '.

Air Canada uses the 737 MAX on numerous routes, such as from Calgary and Vancouver to Honolulu, according to a search of the site.

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The Lion Air crash in Indonesia preceded the Ethiopian Airlines crash by about four months.

That incident had Boeing issuing an Operations Manual Bulletin (OMB) to operators of the 737 MAX 8.

The Indonesia National Transportation Safety Committee determined that Lion Air flight 610 had experienced "erroneous input from one of its Angle of Attack (AOA) sensors," which help to see that air flows over a plane's wings.

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In response, Boeing directed operators to "existing flight crew procedures" where they found "erroneous input from an AOA sensor."

However, Indonesia's transportation safety committee also found that the Boeing 737 MAX 8 which crashed wasn't in airworthy condition, a preliminary report found.

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Many airlines have decided not to fly the Boeing 737 Max 8 after that model crashed in Ethiopia on Sunday, months after a similar Lion Air crash off But at least 18 carriers, including American Airlines and Southwest Airlines, which are heavy users of the Max 8, continued to fly them on Monday.

US plane maker Boeing is facing questions after an Ethiopian Airlines 737 crash on Sunday killed all 157 Following the Lion Air crash last October, investigators said the pilots had appeared to struggle with an Cayman Airways also grounded its two Boeings of the same type . But a spokeswoman for Southwest Airlines flies 31, while American Airlines and Air Canada each have 24 in their fleet.

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A "stick shaker," which is an instrument that warns of a stall, had vibrated the flight captain's controls during the flight.

The pilot was trying to use controls in an effort to bring the plane's nose up, but an anti-stall system pushed it down.

A more thorough report on the Indonesia crash is expected sometime later this year.

WATCH: Ethiopian Airlines CEO says pilot mentioned having 'difficulty' and wanted to return

In an interview with Global News, aviation expert Jock Williams said the story with the Ethiopia crash appears to be "virtually identical" to the one involving Lion Air.

He said both incidents suggest signs of pilots using old techniques on newly-wired airplanes, but that he doesn't have proof of that.

"In olden days we relieved the pressure on our arms so we didn't have to continually pull, by trimming back on a great big trim wheel, which sat beside the pilots right knee," he said.

"Nowadays, you don't have to do that anymore. You pull back, it says, I sense you're pulling back, I'll just remove that pressure for you, and ti automatically does so."

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But a problem, he said, emerges when pilots are in the habit of using particular switches.

"Then it says, boy, he must really want to put the nose up so it adds some more, and you didn't really want to put it up anymore, you just wanted it about where it was but you were going to relieve the pressure," Williams said.

"The plane is trying to help you, but if you don't understand that it's trying to help and you countermand its orders, or you even increase its orders, the plane becomes confused, and I think that's basically what's happening in these cases."

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In December, Lion Air wouldn't rule out cancelling additional orders for Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes, as it had 190 jets ready to be delivered.

Asked numerous questions about the 737 MAX 8, Boeing would only offer an existing statement expressing sympathy for the passengers and crew of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302.

"A Boeing technical team will be travelling to the crash site to provide technical assistance under the direction of the Ethiopia Accident Investigation Bureau and U.S. National Transportation Safety Board," it said.

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TORONTO - Canada's two largest airlines have at least one of the optional safety features on their Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft that were reportedly lacking on the jets that crashed in Ethiopia and Indonesia. Air Canada and WestJet Airlines both say they purchased disagree lights used by the aircraft's software system during flight to avert stalls. The New York Times has reported the Ethiopian Airlines and Lion Air jets involved in recent fatal crashes were not equipped with angle of attack indicators and disagree lights. According to the report, the safety features are not standard on the aircraft and are offered by Boeing as upgrades.

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