•   
  •   

Sport The Wales v England incidents that left Welsh team so angry with romain Poite

09:55  29 november  2020
09:55  29 november  2020 Source:   walesonline.co.uk

Primark queue stretches over 1000ft as shoppers descend on Cardiff

  Primark queue stretches over 1000ft as shoppers descend on Cardiff Crowds were not put off by grey, drizzly weather as eager bargain hunters waited for hours outside the fashion retailer on the first weekend since restrictions were eased.Crowds were not put off by grey, drizzly weather as eager bargain hunters waited for hours outside the fashion retailer on the first weekend since Wales' firebreak lockdown.

Wayne Pivac angry with refereeing decisions after Wales ' loss to England . French referee Romain Poite was under fire - again - this time from Welsh fans after dismissing a TMO interjection in the lead up to A number of decisions from referee Romain Poite during Wales v England left fans unhappy.

Wales Online. Liam Williams left struggling to eat and sleep due to gruesome injury. Williams misses Wales v England after copping a stray boot to the mouth during Wales ' 18-0 win over Georgia last French referee Romain Poite was under fire - again - this time from Welsh fans after dismissing a TMO interjection in the lead Wayne Pivac angry with refereeing decisions after Wales ' loss to England .

Wales lost out to England on home soil for the first time since 2017 via a 24-13 defeat to Eddie Jones' men.

A spirited performance and an improved defensive display from Wayne Pivac's men weren't enough to hold England and their powerful replacements back.

Despite no fans being inside Parc y Scarlets for the Autumn Nations Cup encounter, Wales followers have already been very vocal in their disagreement with a series of calls referee Romain Poite made during the 80 minutes in Llanelli - and Wales boss Pivac has already said they will be complaining to World Rugby about a number of decisions.

The lack of consequence for a tackle on Dan Biggar while in the air which was flagged by TMO Brian MacNeice was the first to get fans' backs up, with Poite playing on. England's first try followed soon after, while questionable calls were made over the lack of review on a high tackle on Josh Adams by Elliot Daly.

What Wales are actually trying to do under Wayne Pivac and why the plan isn't working

  What Wales are actually trying to do under Wayne Pivac and why the plan isn't working The biggest selling point of a Wales team coached by Wayne Pivac and Stephen Jones was a better attacking game. Yet, nearly a year in, we've yet to really see that. Why?A 42-0 win over Italy had shown signs of an attacking gameplan. And even though the following week resulted in a rather unorganised defeat to Ireland in Dublin, the six phases that led up to Tomos Williams' try pointed to where Wales wanted to head in their bid for a more free-flowing style.

Wales coach Wayne Pivac levels criticism at referee Romain Poite after he ignored call from TMO about a tackle in the air on Dan Biggar, right before England scored In the build-up to Henry Slade’s score the Wales boss was dismayed that Poite did not spot that Dan Biggar was taken out in the air.

Referee Romain Poite Credit: NMC POOL. I would like to start by congratulating Romain Poite on officiating his 70th Test, drawing level with me in third place on the England ’s pack was dominant for most of the game but Romain was still smart enough to notice them pulling back on Wales ’ put-in.

And then there were the scrums.

Former Wales player Derwyn Jones, now agent to the stars, even went as far as saying: "Poite is a disgrace should never be allowed to work at this level again."

Here's a look at the incidents Wales and their fans are unhappy with so far...

FOUL PLAY ON DAN BIGGAR

Pivac felt Dan Biggar was tackled in the air in the build-up to England's first try, although Poite saw fit to only give it as a knock-on.

It put England on the front foot to answer Wales' first try with a try of their own from Henry Slade.

A penalty for the tackle would have certainly changed the course of that sequence of events, at least, and it's something Pivac was pretty unequivocally unhappy about in the aftermath of the final whistle.

The Wales boss said: "[I'm] pretty disappointed with some of the decisions that went on out there, to be honest, mainly probably the try that they scored in the first half where Dan Biggar, we thought, was clearly taken out in the air. The TMO thought so but we played on, so it's a big call in a game like that.

Welsh shoppers flock to High Street while England stuck in lockdown

  Welsh shoppers flock to High Street while England stuck in lockdown Shoppers flooded the streets of Cardiff today as the Welsh people enjoyed their freedom while millions of others in England and Scotland remain in lockdown.Meanwhile, millions of people in England are still stuck in their homes as the country remains locked down and the Scottish face draconian measures to slow the spread of the virus.

Romain Poite , whether rightly or wrongly, has clearly decided that Samson Lee is struggling as it’s another penalty against him. Wales , and coach Wayne Pivac, have very little to lose with zero expectations of victory and a team featuring a teenager and inexperience scattered elsewhere.

The Wales and England starting XVs line-up ahead of their Autumn Nations Cup match at Parc y Scarlets on Saturday Credit: NMC POOL. Samson Lee Under serious pressure at scrum time, referee Romain Poite holding the Wales tighthead responsible for three first half penalties.

"We then asked for him to have a look before the conversion was taken but our captain was dismissed 20 metres away. That was disappointing."

Springbok legend Bryan Habana viewed the decision to ignore TMO Brian MacNeice, who was involved in a controversy at the weekend when talking a referee out of issuing a red card, as odd.

Appearing as a pundit on Amazon Prime Video, Habana said: "It's really strange from Romain Poite to not listen to the TMO. I definitely think there was clear contact before Dan Biggar had actually got to the ground and that is where the England try came from.

"I think the consistency that players around the world are looking for in terms of 'was he in the air? Yes. Is it a penalty? Yes'. Wales can feel very unfortunate."

But former England captain Dylan Hartley was not so sympathetic, suggesting Pivac was "clutching" with that line of comment about referee calls.

Why England's defence is so good and how Wales can get past the self-styled 'kamikaze boys'

  Why England's defence is so good and how Wales can get past the self-styled 'kamikaze boys' England's defence is being lauded as the best around, with their players relishing the destructive side of the game and dominating Ireland last week. So, what do Wales do to beat it?You could ask numerous Welsh fans which facet of the game they are most worried about heading in to the weekend and they'd all possibly give you a different answer.

Half-time - Wales 7-11 England . The Welsh scrum is better in the sense that Wales haven't conceded a penalty Referee Romaine Poite is warning Wales captain Alun Wyn Jones that the next offence could land one They have got to keep doing that because it is forcing errors from this England team .

Wales v England : Autumn Nations Cup – live! With England having six forwards on the bench, a wearying Wales looked vulnerable to a second wave. The home side’s scrum had been its weakest point, four penalties in the opening half forcing Romain Poite to issue a warning to the Wales front

"I think he's clutching there when you say the ref got a few things wrong. Yeah, Sam Underhill tackled Dan Biggar and the outcome might have gone different, but it wouldn't have affected the game.

"If you're looking at that one instance to say that's why Wales lost, you've got a mentally fragile team that can't bounce back from a poor decision.

"That's obviously a penalty, and it leads to a try, but I don't think the result would have been any different if that had been a penalty."


Video: The gain Line: how Wales can break down the England defence (Wales Online)

CHALLENGE ON JOSH ADAMS

a group of men playing a game of football: Elliot Daly's tackle on Josh Adams went unpunished © Huw Evans Picture Agency Elliot Daly's tackle on Josh Adams went unpunished

Also coming in the first half, viewers were left scratching their heads when what some deemed to be a shoulder charge on Josh Adams went completely unpunished.

Adams cleanly caught the ball on the receiving end of a cross-kick from a line-out but the Welsh winger was floored with a challenge from Elliot Daly, hitting the deck in wince-worthy fashion after connecting at the level of Adams' neck.

Wales vs England live stream: how to watch the Autumn Nations for free

  Wales vs England live stream: how to watch the Autumn Nations for free Wales vs England in a huge Autumn Nations Cup clash.Good news: most Autumn Nations Cup rugby games are 100 percent free to watch in the UK. Coverage is split across Amazon Prime and Channel 4.

No action was taken, not even a penalty, while some thought there could have been no complaints if the Saracen had been sent off with a red card.

Asked about the incident, Pivac said: "The assistant referee was right there. It was on the far side of the field.

"We looked at the replay and the question is about whether he used an arm in the tackle I guess.

"I’d have to have a good look at it. I haven’t done that yet."

SCRUM PENALTIES

Pivac went for what he suspected was his best scrummaging front row for the clash against England, but in fairness to Wales, Saturday's outcomes at the scrum may not have been entirely dictated by selection.

The Welsh front row managed to get on the wrong side of the French official, racking up 12 penalties throughout the match.

Poite awarding a penalty to England within 10 minutes without much hesitation was a sign of things to come, after the first scrum for Wales went down, leaving Wyn Jones and Samson Lee unhappy men.

Another notable incident came moments before the break, when the scrum penalty went against Wales on their own feed, taking England up to an 11-7 lead thanks to the boot of Owen Farrell. A serious chat between Poite and captain Alun Wyn Jones seemed to yield little.

Things went further downhill when tight-head prop Samson Lee was left totally perplexed after he was the one pinged despite his opponent Mako Vunipola appearing to lose his footing.

Wales vs England live stream: how to watch the Autumn Nations for free

  Wales vs England live stream: how to watch the Autumn Nations for free Wales vs England in a huge Autumn Nations Cup clash.Good news: most Autumn Nations Cup rugby games are 100 percent free to watch in the UK. Coverage is split across Amazon Prime and Channel 4.

With Poite's mind apparently firmly made up, Lee was hooked just two minutes and 46 seconds into the second half when Tomas Francis came on from the bench, seemingly changing the Frenchman's mind in the short-term at least when he won a free-kick minutes later.

Ryan Elias was also eventually replaced by Elliot Dee, while Pivac was frank in his assessment of what was going wrong at the scrum.

He felt England were guilty of destabilizing the scrum before the put-in but were rarely penalised for doing so.

"Clearly the team that got the weight through the bind, which was England, was getting rewarded. For me, it’s pretty simple. If a prop loses his footing and goes down, then he’s caused the scrum to go down. That happened on a couple of occasions.

"Penalties could have gone either way but six points came from that."

When it was put to Pivac that the Welsh scrum has been a weakness throughout the autumn, he refuted: "This is a totally different set of circumstances.

"It’s a different referee and I think it was pretty clear for everyone to see that when they got the weight through the bind and won the engagement, every penalty went their way.

"With the pictures that the referee was seeing, he felt they were the dominant scrum but on the engagement both teams are supposed to be square and stable.

"That wasn’t the case. We’d have liked the scrums to be reset or them free-kicked for doing that."

ELLIS GENGE INCIDENT

Finally, an incident involving Ellis Genge which was completely missed by both officials and commentators has prompted calls for further investigation.

Footage appearing to show England prop Ellis Genge potentially driving his head into rival Tomas Francis surfaced post-match, prompting calls for the match citing officer to look at it.

Many fans have been left angered after footage emerged on Saturday night. Some have described it as blatant foul play by Genge, while others have suggested a shove from his own team-mate may have made him fall forwards, making the incident appear worse than it actually was. You can read the reaction so far to the incident here.

As for Genge, after the match he said on Twitter: "Thanks for all the Twitter TMO reviews but I didn’t headbutt anyone, thanks for all the messages of support for today - love this group!"

The only four Wales players now guaranteed selection to face Italy if strongest team is picked .
It's been a challenging autumn campaign for Wales with uncertainty existing over many positions as the squad prepare for the final matchIt ain’t happening for Wales this time.

usr: 7
This is interesting!