Regulators to consider when Boeing 737 Max can return to the air
Boeing faces a crucial test this week as global regulators meet in Texas to determine when the grounded 737 Max aircraft will return to the air, after further revelations of problems with software used to train pilots to fly the aircraft. The world’s largest commercial aircraft manufacturer revealed at the weekend that it had been forced to correct a flaw in the software of flight-training simulators that are meant to reproduce the flying conditions of the Max aircraft involved in two deadly crashes in the past six months. The disclosure is a further blow to Boeing’s credibility, which has been seriously damaged by the two crashes, in which 346 people died.
Arlington, Va. — CBS News has obtained audio from the American Airlines pilots' union confronting Boeing about new features to the 737 Max that may have been factors in two deadly crashes. Frustration boiled over during the tense meeting in November 2018, less than a month after the first Max crashed, and four months before the second crash.
"We flat out deserve to know what is on our airplanes," one pilot is heard saying.
"I don't disagree," the official said.
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Last October, Lion Air flight 610 went down off the coast of Indonesia killing 189 people. Investigators believe a faulty sensor triggered the plane's MCAS anti-stall system that repeatedly pushed the plane down.
On Jan. 14, 2019, the cockpit voice recorder of the plane was discovered from the crash site in Java Sea. According to Ridwan Djamaluddin, a deputy maritime minister, human remains were also discovered on the seabed. The plane's flight data recorder was discovered a few days after the crash.
(Pictured) Indonesian Navy Commander Rear Admiral Yudo Margin shows the recovered cockpit voice recorder of Lion Air flight 610 that crashed into the sea in October during a press conference on board of the navy ship KRI Spica in the waters off Tanjung Karawang, Indonesia, on Jan. 14. Navy divers have recovered the cockpit voice recorder in a possible boost to the accident investigation.
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Indonesia's National Transportation Safety Committee (KNKT) officer shows a cockpit voice recorder (CVR) of a Lion Air JT610, on the deck of KRI Spica-934 at Karawang sea in West Java, Indonesia, on Jan. 14.
Indonesia's President Joko Widodo (C) delivers a statement on the search and rescue efforts, on Nov. 2, accompanied by Transportation Minister Budi Karya Sumadi (3rd R), head of search and rescue board Muhammad Syaugi (2nd R) and military chief Marshall Hadi Tjahjanto (R).
Family members grieve after police hand over the remains of their relatives who died at the Jakarta police hospital on Nov. 4. Indonesian authorities said on Sunday they have been able to identify 7 more victims of Lion Air flight 610.
A navy diver enters the water during a search operation for the victims and fuselage of the crashed plane in the waters of Tanjung Karawang, on Nov. 4. Investigators succeeded in retrieving hours of data from the aircraft's flight recorder as Indonesian authorities on Sunday extended the search at sea for victims and debris.
Indonesian investigators inspect wreckage recovered from Lion Air Flight JT 610 on Nov. 3. Indonesian authorities said on Saturday that a diver who joined the search operation for Lion Air flight 610 had died after being found unconscious on Friday, possibly due to an accident while diving.
US, Singaporean and Indonesian investigators work together using ping locator equipment in their effort to search for the CVR (Cockpit Voice Recorder) of Lion Air flight in the Kerawang waters of the Java Sea, on Nov. 2.
The recovered flight data recorder of the Lion Air jet is displayed during a press conference at Tanjung Priok Port, on Nov. 1. Divers recovered the crashed jet's flight data recorder from the seafloor on Thursday, a crucial development in the investigation into what caused the 2-month-old plane to plunge into Indonesian seas.
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Family members mourn next to the grave of Jannatun Cintya Dewi, who was a passenger on the ill-fated Lion Air flight JT 610 which crashed earlier this week, during her funeral in Sidiarjo in East Java province, on Nov. 1.
Personnel from National Transportation Safety Board examine debris from Lion Air flight JT610 at Tanjung Priok port on Nov. 1, in Jakarta.
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A French widow filed a lawsuit against Boeing for at least $276 million over the Ethiopian Airlines crash in March that killed all 157 people aboard, including her husband . Nadege Dubois-Seex lost husband Jonathan Seex in the crash. The couple had three children between the ages of 7 and 10. “It is a tragedy which, by definition, could have been avoided, because it had already happened five months before. How could they stay deaf to this warning?” Dubois-Seex told reporters at a press conference in Paris. She was referencing the Boeing 737 Max 8 flown by Lion Air that crashed in October 2018 killing 189 people.
This picture from Indonesia media agency "detikcom" shows part of the ill-fated Lion Air flight JT 610's black box, an FDR (flight data recorder), after it was recovered from the Java Sea, during search operations in the waters off Karawang on Nov. 1.
Officers show flight attendant uniforms as the Disaster Victim Identification (DVI) team takes some samples of the items belonging to victims of the crashed Lion Air plane at the Crisis Center located in Tanjung Priok Ports, on Oct. 31.
A crew member of a rescue ship uses his binocular during a search operation for the victims of Lion Air plane crash, on Oct. 31, in the waters of Tanjung Karawang.
Footage of deadly police chase shows officers fire 70 shots at suspect
Police have released dramatic body camera footage of officers firing more than 70 shots at a suspect as they chased him in their vehicle through a busy residential area. One of the officers is seen firing multiple shots through his own windscreen during the chase in Anaheim in California last July. That officer, who was driving the patrol car at the time, has now been sacked. His partner has been placed on leave. The suspect they were pursuing died from the injuries he received.
Boeing vice president Mike Sinnett, who does not appear to know he was being recorded, claimed what happened to Lion Air was once-in-a-lifetime type scenario.
"I don't know that understanding this system would've changed the outcome on this. In a million miles, you're going to maybe fly this airplane, maybe once you're going to see this, ever. So we try not to overload the crews with information that's unnecessary so they actually know the information we believe is important," the official said.
The pilots in the room were not satisfied with that answer. "We're the last line of defense to being in that smoking hole. And we need the knowledge," one pilot said.
Boeing told the pilots it would make software changes, perhaps in as little as six weeks, but didn't want to hurry it.
"We want to make sure we're fixing the right things," the official said. "That's the important thing. To make sure we're fixing the right things. We don't want to rush and do a c****y job of fixing the right things, and we also don't want to fix the wrong things."
That fix was still in development when the second 737 Max crashed in March, leading to the worldwide grounding of the plane. The existence of the audio was first reported by the Dallas Morning News.
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Audio reveals pilots questioned Boeing after Lion Air crash
CBS News has obtained audio from the American Airlines pilots' union, in which members confronted Boeing about new features to the Max 737 that may have ...
Audio reveals pilots confronting Boeing about new features suspected in deadly crashes
Arlington, Va. — CBS News has obtained audio from the American Airlines pilots union confronting Boeing about new features to the 737 Max that may have ...