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Politics Fact check: No, Wisconsin votes don’t have to be counted by 8 p.m. on Nov. 3

03:25  01 october  2020
03:25  01 october  2020 Source:   usatoday.com

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Make your vote count by following the ballot instructions. Your ballot will NOT be counted if The Wisconsin Election Commission urges voters to mail their ballots as soon as possible in order to be Most voters may also return their ballot to their polling place by 8 p . m . on Election Day (Tuesday, Nov .

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Claim: 'A federal judge just ordered Wisconsin must have all ballots counted by 8 p.m. on the day of the election.'

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One Sept. 28 Facebook post reads: “A federal judge just ordered Wisconsin must have all ballots counted by 8 p.m. on the day of the election."

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In the comments on one version of the post, many offer thanks for sharing the information. Some call for the same order to be given for other states.

One problem: The post is completely fictitious.

In fact, a ruling from a federal judge — upheld by an appeals panel — actually does the opposite. It extends the period for which absentee ballots can be counted by nearly a week.

Let's clarify what it got wrong.

For those in line, voting can continue after 8 p.m.

The first problem is that results have never been tallied by 8 p.m. on Election Day.

That’s when polls close.

And, by state law, anyone in line by 8 p.m. is entitled to vote. That alone might take hours in a high turnout election. So, as a practical matter, there is no way to count all of the votes by 8 p.m.

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Since your voting rights and drivers license are separate it means you have to go through that bullshit to prove your identity twice. I voted in another state last election and even though a photo ID wasn' t required, I had to sign up online for a voter You better check that melanin count at the door buster!

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Absentee ballots mean it will take longer

Even in pre-pandemic election years, when many fewer absentee ballots are involved, it can take hours to run all of the ballots through machines and get final numbers. That’s because Wisconsin is among a few states that do not allow election clerks to begin that process until Election Day.

Clerks — Republican and Democrat alike — have long asked for the Legislature to change this. Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson recently called for it as well, but the GOP-controlled Legislature has refused to act.

Ruling says the opposite of the post

The Facebook post says a judge issued this ruling but provides no name.

That’s because there is no such ruling.

Historically, state law has held that only absentee ballots received by Election Day can be tabulated. Those that come in later, even if mailed on time, are discarded.

On Sept. 21, 2020, a federal judge ordered a number of changes to procedures. Notably, for our purposes here, he gave Wisconsin voters more time to get their absentee ballots in. As long as the ballots are postmarked by Nov. 3, they can be accepted and counted by clerks through Nov. 9, nearly one week later.

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That judge, William Conley, initially put that ruling on hold, so it could be appealed. On Sept 29, a panel of appeals court judges upheld the ruling, putting the extended deadline in place.

That ruling, which was unanimous, came from a three-judge panel of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago, all of whom were appointed by Republican presidents.

The decision was a victory for Democrats, who asked to loosen election rules during the coronavirus pandemic, and a setback for Republicans, who tried to prevent changes to the timeline of Election Day.

The ruling, which could be appealed again, also gave voters extra time to register to vote, extending the deadline from Oct. 14 to Oct. 21.

Our ruling: False

We rate this claim FALSE based on our research. This post gets it completely wrong. First, voters in line at 8 p.m. on Election Day can legally cast their vote. No judge made this ruling. An earlier ruling from a federal judge — since upheld by an appeals panel — actually did the opposite, allowing any absentee ballots returned by Nov. 9 to be counted, as long as they were postmarked by Election Day.

Our fact-check sources:

  • Facebook post, Sept. 28, 2020
  • Wisconsin State Statutes, 6.78(4)
  • Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Sept. 29,  “Appeals court allows extension of Wisconsin’s absentee ballot deadlines."
  • Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Sept 21, “Judge gives Wisconsin voters more time to return absentee ballots.”

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