Politics 'I'll never vote again' for former President Trump says Republican House member
The full timeline of Trump's known phone calls on the day of the January 6 insurrection
The January 6 Committee's Thursday hearing will focus on Trump's actions and communications as the riot unfolded. Here's what we know so far.The Washington Post and CBS previously obtained and reported on White House call logs and records secured by the Committee, documents that provide the most comprehensive timeline of Trump's known phone calls before and after the riots at the US Capitol.
Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowersfor an open state senate seat this week, about the pressure campaign from former President Donald Trump and his associates to undo the presidential election results in the state.
Bowers has drawn the ire of the Arizona GOP, who censured him earlier this month, and of former President Trump. But he's unapologetic about his congressional testimony and his decision not to overturn the Arizona's results.
"If we want to base a party and an authority and move people to solve problems, you can't base it on a lie. Ultimately, that falls apart,"in an exclusive interview at his home in Mesa, Arizona.
Trump wouldn't say the 'election is over' as he fumbled practicing his address after the January 6 attack
In new outtakes, Trump struggled through his speech a day after the insurrection and refused to say, "The election is over."But he refused to say four words suggested by aides: "The election is over.
Bowers faces Trump-endorsed candidate David Fansworth in an Aug. 2 primary that makes Bowers the first Republican to face voters after testifying before the Jan. 6 committee.
"I've had people walk up and say, you know, just cold turkey, 'I'm ashamed of you,'" he told Karl.
Bowers says he's also been called a "traitor" and has been told that "the price of treason is hanging."
In his June testimony, Bowers detailed several conversations with former President Trump and his then-personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, asking him to replace Arizona's electors with ones who would say Trump won the 2020 election.
Biden won Arizona in 2020 by almost 11,000 votes.
"Did you ever consider going along with it?" Karl asked Bowers.
Mitt Romney says Democratic efforts to boost Trump-allied GOP election deniers is a 'stupid' approach: 'Be careful what you wish for'
"You may select somebody who actually wins and then you hurt the country as well as your own party," Romney told The Huffington Post this week.The Utah Republican — who was one of the first Senate Republicans to congratulate President Joe Biden on his electoral victory in November 2020 — said that Democrats spending money to elevate far-right candidates while banking on their lack of electability in the general election was a risky move that could end up backfiring.
"I said, this is new to me. The idea of throwing out the election of the president is like, okay, so what part of Jupiter do I get to land on and colonize?" Bowers said.
Giuliani "never" provided any evidence to back up claims that thousands of dead people voted in Arizona, Bowers said.
"You asked [Giuliani] for evidence of fraud?" asked Karl.
"Over and over, and he said, 'yes, yes.' And he never gave us anything. No names, no data, nothing."
Bowers, who is term-limited in the state house, previously said it would take a "miracle" for him to win his bid for state senate. He told Karl "the demographics of my race are heavily Trump."
In an unusual move for a state legislature race, former President Trump has campaigned against Bowers in Arizona.
GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger says he felt 'dirty' voting for Trump in 2020, but at the time he wanted to 'have credit with the base'
Kinzinger told The Post he cast a ballot for Trump so he could "say with a straight face" that he voted for him, explaining his thinking at the time.The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, riot has hosted six public hearings so far revealing their findings, which also included public damning testimony from former staffers in the Trump administration.
"Rusty Bowers, he's a RINO ['Republican in name only'] coward who participated against the Republican party in the totally partisan unselect committee of political thugs and hacks the other day, and disgraced himself, and he disgraced the state of Arizona," he told a crowd in Prescott Valley, Arizona, on July 22.
In response, Bowers told Karl, "I have thought at times, someone born how he was, raised how he was -- he has no idea what a hard life is, and what people have to go through in the real world. He has no idea what courage is, and the last place on Earth that I would want to do evil would be the state of Arizona."
A fifth-generation Arizonan, Bowers has held state public office for 17 years. Bowers has, like other Republicans who have broken with the former President, faced harassment and threats.
"How do you explain the hold that he has, though, on, on Republicans, including a lot of Republican leaders right here in Arizona?" Karl asked Bowers.
"Well, those leaders in Arizona are an interesting group in and of themselves. They rule by thuggery and intimidation," Bower said. "So, you know, they, they found a niche, they found a way and it's fear. And people can use fear, demagogues like to use fears as a weapon. And they weaponize everything. That's not leadership to me to use thuggery."
Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger says the Jan. 6 committee has 'proven' a criminal case against Trump
The committee wouldn't be able to legally prosecute Trump, but it can send a criminal referral to the Justice Department."I think, taken in totality, this represents the greatest effort to overturn the will of the people, to conspire against the will of the people, and to conspire against American democracy that we've ever had, frankly since the Civil War," he said Friday during an interview with CNN. "I think we've proven that.
After his testimony, Bowers faced criticism for telling a reporter that he would vote for Pres. Trump in 2024. He told Karl that's absolutely not the case.
"So, just to clarify, you're not supporting Trump again?" Karl asked.
"I'm not," said Bowers. "My vote will never tarnish his name on a ballot."
"You're never again gonna vote for Donald Trump?" Karl reiterated.
"I'll never vote for him," Bowers replied. "But I won't have to, because I think America's tired. And there's absolutely forceful, qualified, morally, defensible, and upright people. And that's what I want. That's what I want in my party. And that's what I want to see."
When asked if former President Trump could ever be trusted in a position of authority again, Bowers said, "I would certainly hope not. I certainly don't trust that authority that he would exercise."
Bowers echoed the words of Jan. 6 House committee vice chair, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, who was one of 10 House Republicans to vote to impeach Trump after the Capitol riot.
"Liz also said that 'the reality that we face today as Republicans is we have to choose to be loyal to Donald Trump, or to be loyal to the Constitution.' And you can't be both," Karl said.
"I don't see a question at all there. No question. The Constitution was designed to last and be the light of freedom to the whole world. That's not a legacy that I would want to play with," said Bowers.
Bowers also told Karl he hasn’t been contacted by the Justice Department, which is conducting its own investigation into the Capitol attack, but would cooperate if asked to do so.
“I have nothing to hide and I want to tell the truth," he said.
Donald Trump's docket: The latest on key cases and investigations facing the ex-president .
Donald Trump and his business are involved in at least a dozen significant investigations and lawsuits. Here's the latest on all of them.In November, Summer Zervos, who had accused Trump of sexual assault following her appearance on "The Apprentice," dropped her lawsuit against him before he was forced to sit for a deposition. At around the same time, a New York state judge dismissed a lawsuit from Michael Cohen seeking to have the Trump Organization reimburse his legal fees for work he did on Trump's behalf.