Ex-Astros say team electronically stole signs during 2017 season
While the Astros have denied the numerous sign-stealing allegations against them, the former members of their World Series team described the practice they used that season in detail. According to the report, a feed from the camera in the outfield was linked to a television that was positioned on a wall in the tunnel that runs between the home dugout and the clubhouse at Minute Maid Park.
A Houston Astros front-office executive reportedly suggested the use of cameras to steal signs in an So go to game , see what you can (or can’t) do and report back your findings." While the names of the Multiple Astros scouts were "appalled" by being asked to possibly use cameras to steal signs
Start or Sit (NFC Home Games ); Myles Garrett Reaction. An email from the front office to the scouting staff discussing the use of cameras to steal signs is a damning piece of evidence, and the Rosenthal and Drellich report says the Astros also discussed stealing signs with their scouts over
The Houston Astros’ decision to move the position of their TV cameras for home games for the 2017 season now may take on new meaning in the context of the cheating scandal in which they are involved. © Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY Sports
Ahead of the 2017 MLB season, the Astros worked with ROOT Sports, the company that broadcast their games, on switching the position of their TV cameras for games at Minute Maid Park.
Prior to 2017, the Astros had a camera angle that was towards the left-field side of center, and therefore off to the right for TV viewers. For 2017, they moved to a position high above the straightaway center field, giving a direct view of pitches.
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Makes sense now.
The Houston Astros have been accused of executing an elaborate sign - stealing scheme to gain an unfair — and illegal — competitive advantage during the According to reporting by The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich, the Astros used an outfield camera and TV in the locker room tunnel to
Sign - stealing has always been a part of our game , but in the legitimate way. If you're at second base and The Astros have had accusations of sign - stealing multiple times over the past few seasons He told reporters at the GM Meeting in Arizona this week that " change is not always easy but it's
A direct view behind the above center field would also give a clearer view of the catcher’s signs and therefore make it easier to accurately relay those signs to a hitter.
Astros president of business operations Reid Ryan cited an improved look at the strike zone for viewers and more balanced signage placement behind home plate as reasons for the change.
“We think the new angle will give viewers a better look at the strike zone and advertisers more balanced signage placement,” Astros president of business operations Reid Ryan said of the move via the Houston Chronicle.
“We wanted a new camera angle that improves the strike zone the fans see on TV as well as the benefit of the advertisers getting more value for their signs,” Ryan told MLB.com. “Before, you always had a little bit of brick on the side. It didn’t look centered.”
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The Houston Astros are facing public backlash over revelations that the team may have been using electronic means to steal signs.One GM stood off to the side, obscured by the tall bushes towards the check-in desk, not talking to a soul.
Sign stealing in baseball is common (Usually sign stealing is done by a runner on second base that has a perfect view of home plate, or sometimes teams are able to recognize a pitcher is I've included a list of videos below that demonstrate the Astros stealing signs using their purported illegal methods.
Said it in the Astros thread but in the article it says it started with two uniformed people early in 2017 (including one player who was struggling and benefitted Banging a trash can in a hallway behind the dugout and a guy in the batters box will hear it? It’s so gd loud in that place during most playoff games .
One might not have thought anything of this development other than it improved the viewer experience. However, now that we know how the Astros used the center field camera feed to their advantage, the changed TV camera position raises questions. Was moving the TV camera done to aid the Astros’ ability to clearly see catcher signs, or did the move merely make it easier for the team to steal signs once they decided that was something they wanted to do?
Based on the timeline laid out by The Athletic’s article, the latter would be the case.
Early in the 2017 season, at least two uniformed Astros got together to start the process. One was a hitter who was struggling at the plate and had benefited from sign stealing with a previous team, according to club sources; another was a coach who wanted to help.
The timing of the Astros changing the position of their TV cameras for home games may be coincidental, but while MLB is conducting its investigation, this is something else they should examine to see whether it was done honestly or with nefarious intentions in mind.
Baseball has got to show the game's not rigged
Baseball has got to show the game's not riggedOr whether some owners annually present a grossly inferior product. They do.
Players illegally stealing signs absolutely helps teams win, but it doesn't basically guarantee a win. Their have been reports stating not all the Astros players were ok with the sign stealing , and some players did not participate. At the very least every position player knew and was complicit.
Washington was very concerned about the Astros stealing signs in the 2019 Fall Classic. Each pitcher had five sets of signs , and they could change them from game to game — or even Despite Houston's home dominance, the Nationals won all four World Series games in Minute Maid Park this
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As the only uncapped major league, MLB Baseball features a considerable gap between the haves and have-nots financially. That dynamic has given rise to a reality where about 10 teams are trying hard to win, 10 are trying hard to lose and 10 are stuck in the middle. That makes being a fan awfully tough in some cities. Here's Yardbarker's ranking of fan bases from worst to first. (All attendance figures through Aug. 26, 2019.) Mark Brown/Getty Images
30. MIAMI MARLINS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 9,994Marlins Park is cavernous, empty and generally depressing almost every night. In south Florida, there are plenty of other things to do that beat sitting in a stadium watching a terrible team that has been stripped bare. Blame Derek Jeter and the Marlins' ownership group for buying the team and running it just as shamefully as Jeffrey Loria did. Fans have been subjected to repeated fire sales, and even though the Marlins have won two World Series, the team engenders no real loyalty or love. Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY Sports
29. TAMPA BAY RAYS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 15,001Tropicana Field is one of the sport’s worst facilities, and to make matters worse, it is situated in the traffic-choked Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater area, which makes getting there a nightmare. That is a big part of the Rays’ attendance problem. The Rays are a constant candidate for relocation, and earlier this year they were the subject of an outlandish plan that proposed they play half of their home games in Tampa and half in Montreal. (It was quickly shelved.) We'd have more sympathy for the fans, but the Rays win, and there’s no excuse to have the worst attendance in the American League. Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports
28. OAKLAND ATHLETICS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 20,373The Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum is a dilapidated joke of a stadium. Executive VP Billy Beane has never won an AL pennant during his time in Oakland, so maybe that’s what A's fans are holding out for. Or maybe they put on a good show when their A's are unexpectedly charging toward the playoffs and are just indifferent when they are merely run-of-the-mill good. Either way, it’s a bad look. Kelley L Cox-USA TODAY Sports
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27. CLEVELAND INDIANS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 21,808Cleveland has roared back into the AL Central race, so perhaps it will see a late surge at the gate. This franchise drew more than three million fans every year from 1996-2001. It hasn’t had a losing season since 2012 but has managed to top two million in attendance just once in that span, 2017, the year after it lost to the Cubs in the World Series. The only explanation for such poor attendance is that the fans aren’t holding up their end of the bargain. Cleveland rocks? Not when it comes to its baseball fans. Angie Walton-USA TODAY Sports
26. ATLANTA BRAVES
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 32,470No city can call itself a baseball town if it can’t sell out playoff games, and for a long time Atlanta routinely failed to do precisely that. The Braves won only one World Series in their preposterous run of 14 straight division titles, but the phrase “spoiled by success” perfectly describes their fan base. The Braves manage to draw a tick under 33,000 fans per game, but it always feels like half of those fans are just bored in the summer heat, and with no beach for hundreds of miles, choose to go to a baseball game instead. Jason Getz-USA TODAY Sports
25. PITTSBURGH PIRATES
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 19,309When the Pirates finally ended 20 years of losing with a 94-68 campaign in 2013, the Bucs posted their highest attendance since 2001, PNC Park’s inaugural year. They set the all-time franchise record for attendance in 2015, with just under 2.5 million fans. After winning 98 games that season, the Pirates haven’t topped 82 wins since. PNC Park, still regarded by many as the best stadium in the majors, is often a silent, depressing place to watch a game. Charles LeClaire-USA TODAY Sports
24. WASHINGTON NATIONALS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 28,049Go to a Nats game, and you get the sense that fans there like having an MLB team, primarily because it gives them something to do and not because they have some deep affection for the club. Washington has had its share of playoff flameouts, having not reached the NLCS since moving from Montreal. Perhaps fans are scared to commit. Geoff Burke-USA TODAY Sports
23. CINCINNATI REDS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 22,733The Reds rank ahead of only the Pirates and Marlins in NL attendance, and considering that Cincinnati only recently started to fade out of the playoff picture, that’s unacceptable. The last time a Reds team drew more than two million fans was 2015, two years removed from the team's wild-card appearance. The fan response has been positive this year, but barely. One expects more from a place with such a rich tradition in the sport. David Kohl-USA TODAY Sports
22. LOS ANGELES ANGELS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 37,188One of the great sports injustices of our time is the fact that Mike Trout, one of the greatest players the sport has ever seen, will likely play out his entire career in Orange County, a place that couldn’t appear less interested in the Angels if it tried. A look at attendance figures would suggest Angels fans are good fans. However, one or two nights watching them elicits a different conclusion. Gary A. Vasquez-USA TODAY Sports
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21. ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 25,674Arizona suffers from a different variation of the same affliction that plagues the Marlins: Because fans have beautiful weather almost every day, they can often find something better to do than sit inside in an enormous, gimmicky ballpark while a decidedly average team takes the field. Arizona fans aren’t horrible, but they certainly aren’t great either. The Diamondbacks have the fourth-lowest average attendance in the National League. Joe Camporeale-USA TODAY Sports
20. SAN DIEGO PADRES
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 30,140Manny Machado’s arrival has energized San Diegans. The Padres have seen an attendance spike of more than 3,000 fans per game over last season. Not bad for a team well under .500 and out of the playoff race. Perhaps having some success for a captive audience will make one of the country’s most pleasant cities a full-on baseball town. Jake Roth-USA TODAY Sports
19. TORONTO BLUE JAYS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 21,907When Toronto advanced to the ALCS in 2015 and 2016, it drew nearly 2.8 million and 3.4 million fans, respectively. They packed in 3.2 million more in 2017, and only now, with it obvious that the front office intends to execute a full rebuild, have fans started to stay away. Nick Turchiaro-USA TODAY Sports
18. SEATTLE MARINERS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 22,805In 2018, the Mariners won 89 games but were outscored by 34 runs. GM Jerry Dipoto decided a rebuild was in order, angering fans. The Mariners haven’t been to the playoffs since 2001 yet they have managed to draw more than two million fans most seasons. This year’s results are ugly and might get worse before they get better, but if Seattle gets back on the upswing, fans will come out to support this team. Joe Nicholson-USA TODAY Sports
17. TEXAS RANGERS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 26,036The Rangers are building a new, retractable roof park, set to open next year, that should draw more fans. Will that be enough to get Rangers fans to show up in droves? Yes. Texas looks like a team on the upswing, too. Jerome Miron-USA TODAY Sports
16. KANSAS CITY ROYALS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 18,954K.C. has the AL’s third-worst average attendance, but considering how bad the Royals have been lately, it’s somewhat impressive that the Royals aren’t at the bottom. Kauffman Stadium’s capacity is barely a touch over 37,000, so the Royals’ 2.7 million attendance figure in their World Series-winning year of 2015 is impressive. Royals fans are dedicated, knowledgeable and have always been appreciative of good baseball. They aren’t unlike fans of the cross-state Cardinals. Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports
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15. DETROIT TIGERS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 19,663The Tigers are a lock to lose well over 100 games, but their fans haven’t completely abandoned them. The Tigers rank 12th in the AL in attendance; and while things haven’t been great on that front, with more than 3,000 fewer fans per game showing up this year compared to last, the sheer scope of Detroit’s rebuild effort makes it impossible to expect fans to continue forking over money to watch a big loser. Raj Mehta-USA TODAY Sports
14. BALTIMORE ORIOLES
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 17,007The putrid Orioles set a franchise record for losses last season, and this year is shaping up to be nearly as bad. They are drawing nearly 2,500 fewer fans per game than they did last year. (They rank 14th in the AL in attendance.) Baltimore, like so many other MLB teams, is clearly rebuilding, which would test the patience of any fan. The road back to competitiveness will be long and arduous. Evan Habeeb-USA TODAY Sports
13. COLORADO ROCKIES
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 37,402Rockies fans might strike you as nondescript, laid-back folk who enjoy Denver’s outdoor lifestyle, but they are by and large a solid group. Colorado has the fifth-best attendance in the majors, impressive for a sub-.500 team that's a non-factor in the NL playoff race. Denver has many entertainment options, so the attendance figure is impressive. Or maybe they just love lots and lots of offense -- common in high-altitude Denver. Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports
12. MINNESOTA TWINS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 28,414Twins fans have always created a great atmosphere, and while Target Field isn’t the “Homer Dome” of the 1980s and 1990s, crowds are loud and proud nonetheless. They might not spring to mind when good fan bases are discussed, but Twins fans definitely fit the bill. Home runs help, too. Minnesota is on pace to obliterate the 2018 Yankees’ all-time record of 267 taters in a season. David Berding-USA TODAY Sports
11. NEW YORK METS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 31,331We have a soft spot for Mets fans. And it has nothing to do with how many people tune in to SNY’s game broadcasts — broadcasts that are second to none in the big leagues, by the way. It has nothing to do with how many fans attend the games either. It has everything to do with the fact that the Mets, like the Jets in football, are the “other” team in town, and yet their fans are every bit as passionate as Yankees fans but have an endearing self-deprecating streak. Wendell Cruz-USA TODAY Sports
10. CHICAGO WHITE SOX
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 22,292The White Sox play in a charmless stadium and aren’t very good, yet their fans stand by them. If there’s any justice in the world, we’ll get a Mets-White Sox World Series sooner rather than later. Mike DiNovo-USA TODAY Sports
9. SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 33,501No team has been more successful this decade than the Giants, whose three World Series titles trump Boston’s two. San Francisco, barely alive in the wild-card chase, hasn’t won it all since 2014. San Francisco's crowds are engaged, enthusiastic and seem to understand that they’ve had it pretty great these past 10 seasons. Stan Szeto-USA TODAY Sports
8. HOUSTON ASTROS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 35,228It must be nice to be an Astros fan. The team, stripped down to the studs a few years ago as part of a truly comprehensive rebuild, is a monster. Houston averages more than 35,000 fans per game, and this year’s local TV ratings are up significantly over 2018. That shows that fans haven’t been spoiled by success and still have an appetite for more. Erik Williams-USA TODAY Sports
7. CHICAGO CUBS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 38,187Once the Cubs broke through in 2016 and ended their 108-year World Series drought, their fans, who were already showing signs of becoming an arrogant, infuriating bunch, jumped into that role with both feet. Cubs fans still show up in droves, a reality owing in part to Chicago’s status as the country’s third-largest metropolitan area, but they are genuinely loyal to the team. Problem is, a taste of victory has led them to presume that every subsequent year will feature more of the same. Now that it hasn’t, they’ve become garden-variety big-market fans with outsized, borderline unreasonable expectations. Patrick Gorski-USA TODAY Sports
6. BOSTON RED SOX
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 36,093Red Sox fans used to be everyone’s favorite long-suffering group: a bunch of perpetually tortured souls who wanted just one World Series title and an end to the Curse of the Bambino and the heartbreak it caused for generations. Then Boston won it all in 2004, and fans turned into a whiny, infuriating collection of people almost overnight. The fans show up in droves, and they know the sport, but everything that has happened since that 2004 title makes it impossible to cheer for Boston in a game in which you have no natural rooting interest. Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports
5. PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 34,506Despite horror stories we hear about Philadelphia fans, they are some of the most devoted in the sport. The Phils rank 10th in the majors and sixth in the NL in attendance, impressive considering the team has fallen out of the NL East race. Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
4. NEW YORK YANKEES
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 41,871This is an arrogant fan base with borderline insane expectations, but both attributes are understandable. Yankees fans are a fickle lot, and they’ll turn on just about anyone in an instant. For players who deliver the goods, however, there might be no better place to play. While the atmosphere at the new Yankee Stadium isn’t as good as it was at the old building, when the place gets rocking, the pressure can still crack even the steeliest opposition. The Yankees lead the AL in attendance this year. They are the biggest game in town, and their fans deserve to be recognized for their loyalty, like them or not. David Banks-USA TODAY Sports
3. MILWAUKEE BREWERS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 35,761Despite playing in the league’s smallest TV market, the Brewers often play to a full or mostly full house; and even though Miller Park has a roof for the colder early months of the season, fans still have to brave the weather to get there. Jeff Hanisch-USA TODAY Sports
2. LOS ANGELES DODGERS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 48,880Los Angeles is known for being a less-than-rabid sports town, which might have to do with chronically late-arriving crowds, but that’s likely a function of traffic more than anything. The Dodgers pull fans from a huge population area, but that shouldn’t diminish the fact that they lead the majors in average attendance by nearly 6,000 fans per game. It’s a celebrity-packed crowd, to be sure, but it’s also a knowledgeable, vocal one that can create an incredible, electric atmosphere. Darren Yamashita-USA TODAY Sports
1. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS
2019 AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 42,933The Cardinals are one of only three MLB teams, along with the Dodgers and Yankees, to average at least 40,000 fans per game this season. That’s all the more impressive when you consider that the population bases of New York and LA are several times bigger than the St. Louis metropolitan area. Cardinals fans pride themselves on their baseball knowledge and their appreciation for the game, so much so that they are known to regularly cheer excellent plays — by the other team. The Cardinals are the biggest game in town, and large crowds regularly brave brutal heat to watch a team that rarely disappoints. Jeff Curry-USA TODAY Sports
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