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NFL world reacts to Eli Manning's retirement; Hall of Fame debate starts
The internet had a lot to say after news emerged that Eli Manning has decided to retire from the NFL after 16 seasons. © Vincent Carchietta-USA TODAY SportsManning’s retirement is not too surprising in that he was benched for rookie Daniel Jones this past season and seems to be a shell of his former self. It was the right time for Manning to step away from the game.Though, his retirement did create a stir around the social media and football worlds. Said stir obviously included the start of a debate regarding Manning’s worthiness for Hall of Fame induction.Two Super Bowl titles.
The Wednesday news (confirmed by the team) that longtime Giants quarterback Eli Manning will announce his retirement on Friday brings one of the most interesting questions of this era into focus: Five years from now, when he’s eligible, will Manning be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Based on the numbers, it’s a very tough sell., Manning ranks fifth in touchdown passes (366), but he also ranks first in interceptions (244) by a fairly wide margin — Drew Brees ranks second with 206, and Brees has 518 touchdown passes to date. Manning’s touchdown rate of 4.5% ranks 19th in his era, below Andy Dalton and Jay Cutler. His interception rate of 3.01% is 10th-highest from 2004 through 2019. When you have a higher career interception rate than Blake Bortles, Matt Schaub and Kerry Collins … well, that’s not great.
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Eli's tight Giants fraternity would like to have a word in Hall of Fame debateEAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — Before the world would learn his fate, Eli Manning disclosed his decision to his inner circle of football brothers — four or five close friends and former teammates who, at one time, donned Giants blue alongside him.
Manning ranks 23rd in his era in Adjusted Net Yards per Pass Attempt, Pro Football Reference’s most advanced quarterback efficiency metric. He’s below guys like Jameis Winston, Donovan McNabb and the aforementioned Schaub and Dalton. He’s tied with brother Peyton and Philip Rivers, with whom he switched teams in the 2004 draft, for fourth in his era in fourth-quarter comebacks, which is nice, but for every statistic that runs in his favor, there are three that don’t.
Manning ranks 33rd in completion rate in his era (60.29%). Actually, he’s tied with Ryan Fitzpatrick at 33rd. That may have worked a generation ago, when the idea in the NFL was to create shot plays downfield and to heck with completion rate, but that’s not how the NFL works now — nor has it been in any part of Manning’s career.
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Manning also never finished in the top five in, which measured cumulative opponent-adjusted efficiency through an entire season. The highest he ever made it there was eighth in 2011. He had just five seasons in the top 10. So, if you want to bring the old Bill James “black type” argument (i.e., the seasons in which this player can be seen to lead his league in any category), Manning doesn’t really have that. He led the league in interceptions in three seasons (2007, 2010 and 2013); he threw the longest completion in 2010 and 2011; he led the NFL in sack percentage in 2012; and he led the NFL in both fourth-quarter comebacks and game-winning drives in 2011. That’s the only black type he’s got.
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Of course, the counterargument to any Eli Manning Hall of Fame argument is the two Super Bowls his Giants won over the Patriots at the ends of the 2007 and 2011 seasons. In those two Super Bowls, Manning combined for 49 completions in 74 attempts for 551 yards, three touchdowns and one interception. He had great throws in both Super Bowls — thein Super Bowl XLII, and this insane 38-yard completion to receiver Mario Manningham on the Giants’ game-winning drive in Super Bowl XLVI. That’s still one of the best throws I’ve ever seen.
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Manning was awarded the Most Valuable Player award in both of those Super Bowls, but it could easily and credibly be argued that defensive lineman Justin Tuck should have been the MVP in XLII, and Tuck had an equally compelling case in XLVI. In both Super Bowls, Tuck choked Tom Brady’s primary escape hatch — the ability to step up in the pocket to throw — and this had more to do with New England’s failures than anything Manning did. Tuck was also the primary creator of pressure when Tom Brady was called for intentional grounding in the Patriots end zone with 8:52 left in the first quarter of XLVI, leading to a safety and the Giants’ first points.
Giants had to make special arrangements for Eli Manning’s retirement presser
The debate over whether or not Manning is a Hall of Famer has already begun raging, but his importance to the Giants can’t be overstated. He helped the franchise win two Super Bowls, one of which spoiled what would have been the only 19-0 season in NFL history.Tom Coughlin has already paid tribute to Manning in an emotional statement, and that is the type of tone we can expect to see from a lot more people on Friday.
So, if we’re going to argue for quarterbacks with two Super Bowl wins and no bust in Canton, how about Jim Plunkett, who was under center for the Oakland Raiders in Super Bowl XV and for the Los Angeles Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII? Plunkett was the Most Valuable Player of Super Bowl XV, and he matched Manning’s touchdown pass total in that game alone. Is Manning demonstrably better throughout his career, adjusting for era, than Plunkett was?
In the end, when we’re discussing what makes a Hall of Famer, we’re supposed to be able to find things that were special about this particular player. Things that say, “We can’t write the history of the NFL without this person.” Yes, he’s had a long and storied career, and yes, he does have those two rings, but to say that the history of the NFL can’t be written without Eli Manning is a stretch at best. Most likely he will get in the Hall of Fame someday, and given his ties to the country’s top media market, he may even make it on his first ballot. But that’s not to say it’s the way it should happen, based on the numbers and the tape.
Touchdown Wire editor Doug Farrar previously covered football for Yahoo! Sports, Sports Illustrated, Bleacher Report, the Washington Post, and Football Outsiders. His first book, “,” a schematic history of professional football, was published by Triumph Books in 2018 and won the Professional Football Researchers Association’s for “Outstanding recent achievement in pro football research and historiography.”
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